Was Haki ever mentioned in Piece Netflix? - Gen. Discussion - Comic Vine (2024)

It's like more important than devil fruit and not once I remember it mention. If it was where and if not why they left it out season 1?

It hasn't been mentioned yet but to be fair, Haki wasn't mentioned in the canon story till Skypeia arc. And even then, Enel who isn't from the seas referred to it as "Mantra." What Shanks did with the Lord of the Coast was basically flash a bit of Haki to scare it away.

It was shown by Shanks. Which makes sense, since pretty much no one else actively residing in the East Blue knows how to use it.

@krisbishop: @wushu59: I think the Manga can get away with it. But I don't think you could get away with it for a casual audience. Like how someone's characters have clear superpowers but not devil. I didn't really know that much about one piece until I looked a lot of the stuff up. I think it's pretty detrimental that the first season of all things does not mention one of the most important things, but showcases it with characters anyway.

@sirfizzwhizz: It's meant to be one of the slight hints sprinkled early on in the story. Introduction of Haki is meant to be a surprise to upset the supposed importance of Devil Fruits, allowing the audience to go back and be like, "Damn! Shanks actually used it in the beginning!"

Wasn't mentioned but Conqueror's Haki was demonstrated by Shanks with the Coast Sea King

It exists in LA too

Yeah but clearly we as a audience know Devil Fruit give you powers, but Dracule, Arlong, Zoro, Luffy paps, and few others have super powers but no Devil Fruit powers. So its just seems like bad writing when you dont know about the Haki yet. How can Luffy and crew not know of Haki yet either when they face super human as hell people with super abilities? Makes no sense.

@sirfizzwhizz: Arlong is strong because he's a fishman, he doesn't have haki. Neither does Zoro.

As for Mihawk/Garp, I think the point was to make us realize how far the crew has yet to go, how much they've yet to discover. After beating Zoro in the anime, Mihawk straight up says: "Learn about yourself! Learn about the world! And become strong." The ocean's vast and "brimming with mystery" (first phrase of the entire show). We don't have all the answers yet, and we're not meant to. The adventure is just beginning.

See how am I suppose to know this if they dont explain the rules well. Zoro is a normal human who displays some super human strength multiple times as well super human durability. Same for Sanji who kicks you so hard to send heavy weight fish man flying like a ragdoll toy and through a mini building structure. Just like Vice Admiral Garp does. Who is also normal human but hand throws canon balls like a bazooka!!!! As with Mihawk who cuts bullets in half and destroys a large ship with a sword swing!!!

Its kinda bad writing then as you admit, season one should have explain some of this sh*t better for us filthy casuals. Sorry, me and others i know who dont read the manga or watch the anime were confuse and thought it a plot hole. If we think that we cannot be the only casuals too.

Wouldn’t it be bad writing if everything was explained with exposition in abundance? Devil Fruits in East Blue are a rarity to the characters, shown by reactions to Luffy’s stretching so the audience is learning about them as the people in the universe are, step by step. Adding in Haki so early would only overload the audience in information, not to mention it isn’t even relevant so early given East Blue is the weakest sea and therefore strength, tech and the rare Devil Fruit are all that’s needed to be at the top of the food chain.

The Haki foreshadowing done with Shanks is actually good storytelling and subtly operates on show, don’t tell. One Piece’s biggest themes are mystery and adventure so it would be counter-intuitive to push those themes if everything is explained.

In regards to Zoro, Luffy, Sanji, Mihawk and Garp’s strength, I don’t really understand the point. It’s a case of the show runners not treating the audience like stupid children and leaving them to their own conclusion of humans in this verse attaining superhuman stats through training and hard work.

@sirfizzwhizz: You sound ridiculous.

Sure, dont change how I feel as a non fan of the manga or anime.

I guess, but how is it so many people have Haki powers in abundance, yet alot of people dont seem to know what it is? from my understanding any minor character has Haki enough to understand the physical strength and armor to their bodies they apply? again Im not a fan, just a live action casual, and I feel so much makes no sense till I looked it up. Seems like sh*t writing right now to me, until its flesh out later. My opinion and few of my co workers who watched it with me. Im sure we are not the only ones who see it that way. 'shrugs'

I expected more info for season one, more so when this show is lucky to make it to season 4-5 next ten years from now, since Netflix shows take forever to come out and actors age fast. Looking at stranger things their biggest hit till this show. Hell look at Wednesday their second biggest hit, now 3rd hit, of all time and that has yet a second season teaser lmao.

@sirfizzwhizz: We (people who actually read One Piece) are still learning things about haki to this day. If you consider it bad writing that the answers aren't in the first season then, this story just isn't for you.

@enemybird: maybe you are right. The rules and lore of one of the major powers in the setting still mysterious after 1000s of chapters? That is the kind of stuff that annoys me. So you might be right. I like establish lore and rules of the world establish early with new mysterious rules or lore sprinkle in.

The main focused after establishing rule and lore the characters and story with said characters.

Well yes, It's been hinted at but not fully explained. We receive these types of hints all the time and they go unnoticed. When we get full explanations sometimes you have to go back hundred of chapters and see if itwas every hinted at or mentioned and more often than not, it is. That to me is very impressive writing. Oda does it consistently.

Haki doesn't need to be mentioned in the LA yet, its been shown. Its kind of crazy to start looking things up that haven't been explained then call it bad writing because they weren't introduced. even though in the manga itself it wasn't introduced lol

@enemybird: And yet me and my co-workers instantly kept asking each other. How come this person (Garp, Arlong, Mihawk) has these crazy superpowers? But no mention devil fruit for powers what's up with that?

I wasn't the only one who saw this. You're really seem to be under impression I'm the only person to think this? I wasnt.

@socajunkie:

Who are you referring to in the underlined part?

zoro, Sanji, Garp, Axe Morgan, Mihawk, Arlong, and more seem to have "haki" powers from what i read and thats why they have super human abilities. Not once this is told to the audience who as far I knew first watching Devil fruits re the only things gave you powers. Before this show I always though Zoro and Sanji in debates had Devil Fruit powers, but now learn its some Haki bullsh*t. So i was surprise that the show never mention their devil fruits, and looked up later they have armament haki or some crap.

Expecting more info or wanting more info? Those are two very distinct things. As so far your criticisms go against fundamentally good storytelling.

Want more info. i had questions to the rules of the universe, and they were not answered. thats a fail for me personally. Glad you guys like it, and think "this makes no sense, they have powers too? Oh well, Im sure it will get explain next year or two years when season 2 comes out hopefully". My mind dont work that way neither my two friends who point this out to me before I thought of it.

Fizz, out of curiosity, would you consider it bad writing that GoT S1 or ASOIAF book 1 didn't tell us who Jon's mother was?

What the hell is GoT or ASOIAF? I dont know what that is. So I cannot answere that.

edit: john, is that game of thrones and House of the Dragon shows? If that is what you mean who cares who his mother is, it has NOTHING to do with the rules of the world building. So totally off the mark.

how do you compare "One piece states only devil fruit grant super powers, yet others seem to have powers and stats with no fruit and never explain" vs "Jon snow mother is a mystery and affects nothing for rules of the world and how it works."?

@socajunkie:

I'm not sure where you've read that but Zoro doesn't tap into Haki until Alabasta and doesn't begin using it frequently until post-time skip, Sanji doesn't use it until post-time skip, Garp has always used it but it's only been hinted at pre-time skip before Marineford and Mihawk is in the same boat as Garp.

So Haki is like super big deal for all mediocre fighters in OP world but hardly known about, yet more rare Devil fruits are kinda known? Im confused now.

Neither Arlong or Morgan know Haki.

They have seemingly super human stats and abilities. So wth?! Arlong as a fish man can match building busting strength naturally? Morgan clearly was a tier above normal humans by alot.

As far as Zoro and Sanji goes, to be blunt isn't that more of a failing on your part? At a cursory glance I could understand you thinking they had DF powers on the boards but if you read any Sanji or Zoro debate, you'd never see anyone talking about their DFs because they don't have them. Also if you researched it, wouldn't you come to the same conclusion?

How is it a failing? Only thing in debate forums I heard about Haki was Observation and conqueror. As those came up all the time in debates. Haki as a enhancement for strength and durability never seem to came up in debates I been in, just Devil Fruit powers.

Neither Zoro or Sanji at this early point in the story have developed Haki, they don't even know what it is. They're simply this strong and skilled through training which is obvious given context clues like Zoro being a bounty hunter and Sanji getting trained by Zeff.

So super human for not good reason on same level as MCU Cap america? Riiiiight. Makes sense.

Oh, right. Well so far your confusions have come from bad research, false information and a lack of normal critical thinking in regards to non-Devil Fruit users possessing superhuman abilities from training.

So again,l I shouldn't raise a eyebrow when people are performing MCU Cap America level feats, but have no stated powers? Riiiight. Ok.

It's a fundamental aspect of the story and that's still relevant but ok.

It has zero effect on the powers and magic of the show and how the rules of things work. Its just a story mystery. Not a lore rules mystery. completely irrelevant. You argument is comparable to me asking how Dark Energy works in the universe and you replying with dont you know who built stone hendge? Who cares. One is a question about the rules and laws of the universe and the other is a mundane mystery that when solves changes nothing how rules and law of the universe works.

It was never stated that only Devil Fruits grant superpowers so this comparison's basis is flawed from the start.

Thats all the show gave me which you just admit is a issue with this comment. You read the Manga or Anime and know better, us causals do not. Point conceded.